CwL Ep96: Stories of Change with Dr Ali Young

Lisa Corduff: Hey, it’s Lisa Corduff. Welcome to the podcast where you can expect inspiring, raw, energising, and transformative conversations with people on the path of personal evolution. I’m here to really live my life, and if you are too, these conversations are just for you. I’m really glad you’re here. Enjoy.

I feel like I need to say hi, Doctor Ali, but I don’t.

Ali Young: You don’t. It’s just Ali.

Lisa Corduff: Should I?

Ali Young: Well, it depends who you ask because chiropractors, right? So yeah, that’s a whole nother thing.

Lisa Corduff: Some would even say you’re a quack.

Ali Young: Yes, they would. I know.

Lisa Corduff: I’m actually so glad to be talking to you because we’ve known of each other, and then you interviewed me on your podcast, which was so super fun. And then when I was doing the call out for people, who wants to talk about how things have really shifted for them. you’re like, “Me, me. Ask me.”

Ali Young: Yep. Pick me. That’s me in the background.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah. So I’m so glad we’ve had this and you are not feeling a hundred percent. I haven’t been feeling a hundred percent, but here we are because-

Ali Young: Here we are.

Lisa Corduff: I think there’s just a bit of mutual love, and love for the mic. Let’s be honest.

Ali Young: Yeah. Look, I did just record a whole podcast episode, even though I sound like this for my own podcast, before I was like, “Let’s just do this Ali. Let’s just get it done.”

Lisa Corduff: You actually sound amazing. Okay. So let’s go back to 2019. When did you do Ready for Change?

Ali Young: I did Ready for Change before COVID. That intake you had, was it like February 2020?

Lisa Corduff: Oh yeah.

Ali Young: Would that be right?

Lisa Corduff: Right. Yeah. Before. BC.

Ali Young: Free time.

Lisa Corduff: Free time, when the world kind of made sense.

Ali Young: There was elements of normality.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Okay. So where were you at before then? What was happening in the life of Dr. Ali? [inaudible] saying it.

Ali Young: Thanks. So I had a really thriving practise and I’d worked really, really hard. We’d moved back from overseas. I’d lived expat with husband and kids on and off for five years. And then come back to central Queensland, opened the doors to my practise. And it went gangbusters. I’m a chiro who works with kids and moms. So it’s always needed and wanted. I’d got that going really well. But then I started realising I was hitting burnout mode, and I had this huge dichotomy within myself that I was espousing these vitalistic health principles and everything within my world was in this vitality model, yet I wasn’t obviously listening to what I needed to hear internally because my body was giving me signs that I wasn’t.

So my burnout had shown up when my son headbutted my chin and it gave me a weird, facial tingling that we couldn’t get rid of. I gained 10 kilos in three months. So I would’ve done Ready for Change probably six to seven weeks into this real symptomatic burnout. Obviously that had been building up for a while. I was trying to navigate, so how can I listen to what I need inside me? Because obviously I’d grabbed some story of what my life should look like and I was trying so hard to make that a reality, and maybe that wasn’t what I needed. That’s how I sort of navigated through that pathway.

Lisa Corduff: So what did you realise that you had been telling yourself? What was your truth at that time? I am a successful practise operate. I’m the most successful chiropractor in Gladstone. I can manage working and kids and like-

Ali Young: I’ve got it all and I can do all the things. I think that the biggest story I told myself was that yes, sleep it’s important for everyone else. It was summertime. So I am a fan of a Negroni, but in the summertime, I maybe imbibe a little too much because friends drop over and we all just have a Negroni together. That’s what we did. It got to a point where I think my system was trying to tell me, “That’s not your story. That’s not where you need to be living right now and you can’t keep doing it that way.”

So I told myself that I could have it all, but the having it all wasn’t actually what I inherently wanted within me. I wanted that have-it-all that the 90s power chiro guys told me I should have been having, which was a super busy practise and being in work for huge hours and the kids will be fine and all that kind of stuff. I realised that actually I don’t want to work that much and I want it to be calmer and I want it to be on my terms. And so that was the big shift in change.

Lisa Corduff: Is it hard when you are in that caring, service, delivery and other people start to rely on you? You literally have patience and people who are booking in and needing you and starting to rely on your care, for you to create new boundaries around that, was that hard?

Ali Young: Yeah, definitely. Also being in a small town, not tiny, but small enough that I would at least run into two or three patients on every trip to the shops. I love the community vibe, but sometimes you do have to really delineate that boundary of work time and outside of the office time, for sure. But also, there was a few people where I explained I’m having to do this for my health and they would get that, because I’m showing up for myself how I expect them to show up for themselves. I think that was one of the biggest learnings, was that, well, if I do this for me…

So I lost a heap of weight. I was really focused on being healthy. I told all of my practice, they would be like, “Oh, you look great.” And I said, “Well, I’m looking great because I was in burnout mode.” So I’d actually have an open conversation, rather than just pretending I just did this because I didn’t feel great within myself. No. Because my health was suffering because I’d let myself spiral into sympathetic dominance.

Lisa Corduff: Every single time I say, “Oh, I’m fucked. I’m really overwhelmed or this has gotten on top of me.” I’m a person who has, and you have the knowledge of how to take care of yourself or do all those sorts of things. It’s such a relief when… And I’m like, when people like you, but I know people are pointing to me and saying, “When people like you, Lisa, share that, you’re not all thriving.” Like we just…

Ali Young: We’re human.

Lisa Corduff: Can you tell everyone what the name of your podcast is?

Ali Young: So it’s called Motherhood UnFcked, because… Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Because you just take away all the bullshit and all of the high standards. I think this is the thing though. So when did you launch that podcast? Did you have to go through-

Ali Young: I went through it and then I launched it. So that’s what propelled me into working in the online space because I suddenly went, “I love working one-to-one with people, but I feel like there’s all these other women that don’t live in my 50,000 stuff that could get supported. And I don’t want anyone else to go through that.” I know people are going to go through that because it’s going to be whatever the universe gives them for their life journey. But if I can help support them in any way, that’s how I ended up there.

Lisa Corduff: Right. So you went through Ready for Change. You’re like, “Oh, maybe I don’t have to be all of this thing that I’m telling myself.” So what sort of story did you specifically change to and how did that end up seeing you where you are now, which is a published author, successful podcast, doing online for programmes. Wow, it’s been a really big transformation that actually suits your life.

Ali Young: It really does. Yeah. I think the story I had to let go of was that the only way to be successful as a female chiropractor was to be in practise for huge amounts of time, hands-on people, which, in my 20s, I had all the energy for, because I had no kids and I was just living for that. Whereas once I’ve become a mom, I realised that my energy is guided in different directions now. So I was trying to live out my 20s life in my 40s and it just didn’t work. It just didn’t work. But it took a lot to get there. And my story was that, oh, I can do that. Well, I can do that. Yeah. But I don’t want to do that. And it was realising that the choice was that I didn’t actually have to do that either.

Lisa Corduff: And so was that your new story? I get to-

Ali Young: I get to choose.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah.

Ali Young: Choose my own adventure. So my new story was, choose my own adventure. So how can I bring health back in? Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Just like had full body tingles.

Ali Young: I talk about it all the time.

Lisa Corduff: Really, choose my own [inaudible]. I think the thing is, is that for sure, when I talk about choice, or when any of us talks about choice, it’s hard because there’s obligations that we’ve got in our lives. There’s absolutely things that don’t feel like a choice and probably aren’t a choice.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: But there’s a deeper part of the whole conversation and I think we are not even aware of how blessed people like you and I are, and we trap ourselves unknowingly in lives that feel totally shit.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: When there are actually other options.

Ali Young: There’s other ways. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah.

Ali Young: Absolutely right. And so from Ready for Change, I realised I needed another chiro because I was committed to serving the community, but I didn’t want to necessarily do it. I took a year to find one but I got there. Yeah. Because we’re so far out of capital cities, so not everyone wants to work here. And that has been amazing. But the blessing that came out of COVID was I dropped a day because it was too hard with lockdowns and school and stuff. And I just never put that back on. So I went from being four days a week to three days a week in practise. And I haven’t ever upped that back again, because I was like, “No, I just don’t want to.”

Lisa Corduff: So that was always available to you but-

Ali Young: Yeah, I just never saw it. I just never saw it. Yeah. So, yeah.

Lisa Corduff: It’s just so cool. It’s like, I guess, creating a life by design. When you did the values stuff, were you always kind of aware of what your core values were?

Ali Young: I’ve done a lot of values work over the years. In chiropractic, I think we’re pretty lucky because we’ve got a super philosophical concept behind why we do what we do. So values form a huge part of that. So I’ve always done values work, but it was really refreshing to do it again because I think I hadn’t probably done it again since kids. And my kids, at this stage, would’ve been seven and five. So I was still clinging onto those values that I had pre kids and then all of a sudden I’m post kids seven years and I hadn’t thought about them again. So they changed.

Lisa Corduff: Funny how that happens.

Ali Young: Yeah, I know, right. You’re sort of like, “Oh yes, no, these are my values.” So the core ones, for me, integrity is like my number one, and health is always there. But it definitely isn’t always at the top. It shifts and changes. But the one thing that I think Ready for Change really helped cement for me is that I always told myself that fun and joy were rubbish values because they weren’t seen as success values. You know what I mean? You’re not going to get Tony Robbins saying fun and joy as his bloody favourite value. Whereas for me, my brain works best when I’m living with fun and joy continuously in my life. So that has been something I’ve consciously infused back in again as well.

Lisa Corduff: Watching you online, you look fun. I want to hang out with you because you seem like a fun person. And how hilarious to compare your values to Tony Robbins.

Ali Young: Yeah. Like we’re totally the same person.

Lisa Corduff: It’s just taking a really woo.

Ali Young: He was the only name I could think of that was a values person who wasn’t a weird chiropractor that I would be the only person listening to the podcast would know.

Lisa Corduff: That is so funny. Okay. So tell us about your book, because now I just want to talk about you, and what this has also created space for, to birth in the world. The world is better off because you decided to go, “Actually not this model. I can’t do it. I need to find a new story. I need to actually craft something that works for me and my family.” And now there’s going to be a book on the shelves in a matter of-

Ali Young: Weeks.

Lisa Corduff: … what, weeks? Yeah.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: That people can go on pre-order now. So tell me what that book is about. I want to know.

Ali Young: Yeah. So it’s basically my love story for working moms. And it’s the stuff that I wish I knew when I was going through my tough patch. So it’s in three sections. It’s called Work. Mama. Life. And the first section is about working motherhood, you, society, the patriarchy. It sounds heavy, but it’s not super heavy. And the intergenerational ways that we bring a story from our past and society’s stories into what we think our motherhood should look like and our work experience.

Then I’ve crafted this concept called the five pillars of healthy motherhood. So the middle section of the book is exploring how moms can choose to be healthy. So it’s nourishment, movement, thoughtfulness, sleep, and connection. And those are the five things that I think just if we can get some… And no one has balance in all five perfectly, but understanding where we’re sitting and where we’re fluxing to and fro. And I think that that’s really important.

Then the last section is how we can actually fit that into our life, why it’s called Life. So without it being overwhelming. So the things that I did in my burnout recovery have basically morphed into this book.

Lisa Corduff: How amazing.

Ali Young: Yeah. It’s pretty cool.

Lisa Corduff: I love that final section as well, because I think that’s something that I’ve seen over the years, helping women with food and all of that sort of stuff. It feels like you almost have to put everything aside to do the things that you need to do. And no woman, mom wants to do that because there’s too many balls that she’s carrying over here. So how do-

Ali Young: How do you do that?

Lisa Corduff: Yes. I love that.

Ali Young: In the book I’ve got pause moments everywhere. So there are moments where we actually, okay, we’ve read this. Let’s pause and think. And there’s some reflection questions where people can journal about it or just think about it. Okay, what does this mean for me? Maybe it means nothing. Maybe, yeah, that is something I want to go onto.

So the goal is that by the end you have that. And then at the very end, I actually have recipes, not mine. There’s two of mine and then links to people’s recipes, just for that nourishment section. Because that’s a question… I’ve got ask that. You would, all the time, from your [inaudible].

Lisa Corduff: All the time.

Ali Young: Hence your ebook, which I love. But yeah, the small steps days. I’m forever sharing recipes with people. They’re like, “Well, how do you do that?” And I’m like, “Well, you just do that.” And that’s okay. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah. I know. Sometimes I used to get a bit like, “This isn’t really cooking. It’s more like assemblage of things on a plate.”

Ali Young: One of my kids literally has salad for breakfast every day. She goes to the fridge. I’m like, “What do you want for breakfast?” thinking she might say a crumpet. “No, I’ll just have a salad plate, please, mom.” And it’ll be a bit of roast chicken, a cucumber, a carrot, an apple. So literally we assemble her breakfast every day.

Lisa Corduff: That’s amazing. What a legend.

Ali Young: Yep. Other kid is like toast and Vegemite.

Lisa Corduff: They’re so different kids. My son now, he’s in Grade 6, and he is making his own egg every morning. It’s like a whole new level of motherhood joy, coming downstairs, smelling that eggs are cooking. Yeah. And he’s just on his own.

Ali Young: That is amazing. Yes. I love that. Yeah. Well George, he’s seven, and he’ll scramble eggs with me, but he is not old enough to do it-

Lisa Corduff: Yes. No. No, they have to be older. We’ve got a gas stove. That’s [inaudible].

Ali Young: Yeah, right. No.

Lisa Corduff: Can I ask you, just because before we started this, we were having a conversation about the last two years, and I was sharing with you that I just asked my community if they could just fill out a little survey, just sharing a bit about where they’re at right now. It’s actually been really confronting to read through where people are at. I was starting to feel like, I’ve actually handled a lot in my life. I got used to living with uncertainty, being married to an alcoholic, in recovery, there were periods of sobriety and then there was periods of relapse and it was hard to plan. It hard to feel secure. It was hard just in loads of different reasons. I’d have to keep the household moving, the kids okay, amongst periods in and out of rehab. That first year of COVID, I was like, “This sucks, but I feel like I’ve been in training for this.” It’s also, I’ve got-

Ali Young: [inaudible] had already been expanded.

Lisa Corduff: Yes. I’ve got skills for this. I know life has felt uncertain for a very long time. Then into the second year, it was sort of a real bummer. But then I felt like, yeah, that last lockdown, we called it lockdown of fun and really trying to hold my attention any ways and got through, but was pretty not great by the end. Then it was Christmas. It was straight into all of that. Then a summer that felt magical in lots of ways, and then getting them back into school. It’s all just been really a matter of a very short period of time.

I had COVID and then I’ve just been really sick as well. I’m like, “Is it just me? Is it just me who is feeling like the smallest things are tipping me over the edge right now? Is it just me who feels like I’ve kind of got a new equilibrium?” Like there’s a new max setting on my own personal system is what it feels like, and I reach it faster. When I share that sort of stuff, the response back seems to be like, “Fuck, yes.”

Ali Young: Yeah. Insane.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah. So then you started on some neurological explanation for this that made me feel like, okay, explain to me what has happened to us.

Ali Young: I’m going to preface this by, I am not a trauma specialist, but I read a lot about it and there’s lots more people out there with way more in-depth theory. But basically, we’ve been living in such a state of uncertainty and on edge, like that feeling that you’re just like, well, what’s going to happen today? What new cycle is going to come up? And I think this last two weeks with all of the crazy has really amplified that. Could you think of anything else going… Anyway. Is that we’ve created altered trauma responses in our brain. So it becomes a trauma when you have a prolonged sense of stress and fear going on in your life. So post traumatic stress disorder can come from really big events or continual small stuff. So surely two years has to be continual small stuff, right?

So then that’s creating a lower threshold because our ability to resiliently bounce back from stress is altered. So we would have a normal neurological stress response, but our brain has now learnt that when we’re stressed, we behave in this way. It perceives that stress earlier because its indicators for stress have lowered because of the last two years of continuous stress [inaudible]. So we just are responding in bigger ways to smaller things because our brain muscle hasn’t been able to adapt in the way it’s designed to.

Lisa Corduff: Shit.

Ali Young: I know, I know.

Lisa Corduff: It makes total sense when you talk about it like that. And I’m just thinking about the people that I know, even just the moms that I talk to at school.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: I’m thinking about how I need to… High school next year for [Kia], this involves a move for me, and just all the stuff that needs to get done that feels…

Ali Young: Big.

Lisa Corduff: … just so big.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: But almost not even penetrable, like…

Ali Young: Like how can I navigate this thing which five years ago, you’ve moved to Sydney and Brisbane [inaudible].

Lisa Corduff: My eldest son lived in seven houses. And yet suddenly I feel like it’s just way too big. Yes.

Ali Young: Yeah, exactly. And that’s because our ability to navigate change is so decreased because our bandwidth has just shrunk. So we need to learn how to get our brains back into feeling safe. So one of the easiest ways to signal safety is to get our vagus in a beautiful state. And so that’s your singing, your humming, your cold showers, your connection with people, like all that beautiful stuff that just helps your body go, “Oh, I’m okay. I’m nice and safe.”

Those things that we do for our kids when they hurt themselves, we give them our firm hug, because that signals, I’m okay. I’m not running. We straighten up our posture because that tells our brain that we’re safe. When we’re hunched and looking forward, it tells us we’re hiding. We’re scary. So neurologically, we’re thinking, I’ve got to get ready to run away. So all that time we spend on our phone looking for case numbers and stuck in our house. So what else we going to do all day long? It’s actually shifting posture, which can change that too.

Lisa Corduff: I know. Everyone needs to be following Dr. Ali, always and forever known in my head as Dr. Ali, because are you sharing all this stuff?

Ali Young: Yeah, I do share it. Probably not as much as I should, because I don’t know why, but yeah, I do share it. And it’s all in my book as well.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Buy the book.

Ali Young: Buy the book. But yeah, I think that the way that we recover as mothers from this next two years, and I am big on vagus, I talk about that all the time. I have challenges just on how we can reset our vagus nerve.

Lisa Corduff: Wow.

Ali Young: And people still, six months later and messaging me going, “I am still doing this thing. Thank you.” Because it has become part of their ability to create calm back in their soul again. And that’s, I think where we need to, like you said, getting that calm, centred self back. Not anything big. We don’t need to necessarily change the world. We just need to change ourselves on the inside again and signal that we’re okay.

Lisa Corduff: So just give our bodies the clue that we’re safe.

Ali Young: Yes. That we’re safe. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah. Then some people might be listening to this and thinking, but we’re not. But Putin is bombing Ukrainian nuclear spaces and it does not feel safe. The climate is changing at such a rapid pace and people are dying and I don’t feel safe.

I was actually talking to a friend about this when I was through all the stuff with Nick and there was just this huge level of uncertainty, and I’m pretty sure that life events were happening during that time and I paid no attention. No attention at all. I couldn’t have even told you… If there was an election, I just [inaudible].

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Because I had no capacity because what I was solely focused on was what was going on in my little world. It was definitely more than enough for me to manage myself, Nick, the kids, and my business. I feel like we get called into needing to care.

Ali Young: I a hundred percent agree.

Lisa Corduff: And sometimes we have to say, “I want to be a good global citizen,” or, “I want to be an aware and tuned-in current affairs person. I want to be able to have good conversations. I want to be able to meet with you about the things that are important with you.” But that as women and moms, we also get to choose when we kind of need to pull the pin at home.

Ali Young: Sometimes we just need to not listen for a little while.

Lisa Corduff: Yep.

Ali Young: That’s hard. I feel for people who have family over in Europe, who particularly it’s probably even more pertinent to. But I think one of the biggest things is that we can still choose what goes into our brain. We have an ability to go, “I don’t want that in there right now and I’m going to get rid of that.” You can consciously meditate on it. Maybe you need to have that one friend that you call and you get all your fears and concerns out with, and then it’s gone and then you go, “Okay, now I’m going to honour myself. I need to give myself some calm moments today because I need to get that back.”

We owe it to ourselves because we’re going to end up with an entire generation of burnout, unhealthy, really sick moms because we’re living in that state of worry for the whole world around us. But we’ve got to learn to honour ourselves first. It sounds so selfish and it goes against all the mom guilt stuff, but we really need to realise that we are number one and that if we can look after us, the ripple effect, if we feel calm, our kids will feel more calm, and then they’ll go and infuse that calm out. So that’s why it starts with us being able to acknowledge that.

So yes, we definitely have lack of safety in our environment, but we can’t control that. What we can control is ourselves. And that’s my big messages.

Lisa Corduff: Oh, I mean, we’re singing from the same hymn sheet.

Ali Young: Yeah. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Are we. I don’t think that moms can hear that message enough.

Ali Young: I agree.

Lisa Corduff: I know, especially even with something like Ready for Change, I’m always just shocked at how surprised the participants are when they start to feel a different level of calm or positivity or something like that, how then that’s filtering out to their families.

Ali Young: Their environment. Absolutely.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah. And it’s that whole like, well, you know what? We can just sit there and just wait for everything to get calm around us or-

Ali Young: We can use it.

Lisa Corduff: Or we can build it inside us and then have that ripple out. For me, that was never more obvious than when Nick and I separated and he left the house. I was like, “Oh, now it’s solely on me. I get to create the vibe here.” That vibe, I’m the anchor point. The kids are always going to be having a something or doing this or doing that. And I can be just…

Ali Young: The person that sets the tone.

Lisa Corduff: I can set the tone.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: And-

Ali Young: Yeah. That’s where the chiropracticness, because that tone of your body sets so much tone in your outside world. And that’s the beautiful interaction I see is that hands-on, I get to help people with tone, but then we’re also energetically helping people with tone with the kind of work that we do too. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: I’m really pleased that your voice is out there and it’s not just your patients in Gladstone who are benefiting from your wisdom and vibe, really. I’m really glad that you went on this path.

Ali Young: Yeah. I feel so connected to myself whilst I do it, if that makes sense. I feel really anchored within myself when I’m doing these things. I think Ready for Change was part of that recognition that I needed to find the thing that lit me on fire again. And that was this. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Born for it.

Ali Young: Ringer.

Lisa Corduff: Born for it. Anyone who puts a podcast out there called Motherhood UnFcked has just been waiting for the mic. It’s just like give this woman the microphone. She has things to say, she’s not afraid to say it, and she’s going to cause ripple effects. And that is a very, very good thing. So thank you for sharing not only just your story, but also just some really, really awesome reflections that I hope help women feel a little less alone in where they’re at right now. Because it’s an unusual time, and I think we can be so hard on ourselves. We can have such high expectations. We can be wondering why we’re not doing the things that we know we should be doing or that we were doing a little while ago, and we’re just not now.

Ali Young: Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Dropping the expectations is something that…

Ali Young: Massive. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: Such a gift. That is a gift. That is a gift for your family. That is a gift for you. That is a gift for the universe.

Ali Young: A gift for everybody.

Lisa Corduff: Yeah. Because we don’t need to be operating at unsustainable levels. We might have been able to fool ourselves that we could do it before, but now our bodies are just like uh-uh (negative), no way.

Ali Young: It’s you. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Lisa Corduff: Which is, I think, probably the gift of COVID. The gift of this last two years has been like, see, we were trying to tell you before. We kept giving you things and you thought it was just you and now we’re, as a generation going, “Oh, it was really all unsustainable. Oh yeah. All those ideas that we had about how to do things.”

Ali Young: Not going to happen.

Lisa Corduff: So I’ll be getting your book.

Ali Young: Ah, thanks.

Lisa Corduff: I think everybody should be getting your book because it’s just ridiculous, but also not, that we need constant practical reminders of the basics Of what makes life good. And getting ourselves to a point where we get to enjoy this one precious life is-

Ali Young: So important.

Lisa Corduff: … so important. So thanks for sharing your gifts with the world.

Ali Young: Oh, thank you for having me on and for helping be part of that spark of making it happen. So important. I love your programme. I’ve told so many of my patients to do your programme.

Lisa Corduff: Have you really?

Ali Young: Yeah. Yeah.

Lisa Corduff: I do love it. I think there’s a power in a woman owning her bullshit and then just crafting a new story.

Ali Young: Exactly.

Lisa Corduff: And it’s something that… I love these conversations because I love seeing where it’s led. Tiny little moment. Yeah. But yes, you were ready as well. You were ready for something to shift.

Ali Young: I was ready.

Lisa Corduff: Yes. Which I think makes a difference too. But chiropractors rule. Our chiropractor is our primary healthcare provider. She’s my go-to. Absolutely couldn’t have done the last few years without her. So I think you guys do really important work in the world, but I love the bigger conversation that you’re a part of. I think this is really just a start for you. I think we’re going to be seeing you. I can see you on like morning TV shows, being interviewed and stuff. You are that person.

Ali Young: Oh, you know what’s ironic, is one of my best friends is a Channel Nine newsreader in Melbourne, Alicia Loxley, and she used to be on the Today show. And I know-

Lisa Corduff: She’s got all the contacts.

Ali Young: She’s always been like, “You’re the talker.” That is true.

Lisa Corduff: That is true. I see a book tour. I see all of the interviews. Go get it.

Ali Young: Yeah. Coming at you.

Lisa Corduff: Thank you for sharing today.

Ali Young: Thank you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Lisa Corduff: Hey, if you want to learn exactly how to start moving through the stories that are keeping you stuck, and you want to delve into these self-defeating thinking patterns that so many of us have, then I’ve got a free workshop that you can go and watch right now. In it, I highlight some of the main stories that I see women telling themselves that often lead women into a spiral of self-sabotage. You also learn how to let yourself off the hook a little bit more, because when you understand how your brain is actually working to create this, then you feel a lot breezier about your life. Trust me.

In this workshop, you’ll also start moving towards the things that you want by the end. I absolutely promise you’ll have a new perspective on your next step forward. And that can be in any area of your life where you feel stuck. I can’t wait for you to go and check it out. It’s totally free. The link is in the show notes. Enjoy.

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